What’s the Use? Entanglement, Indebtedness, and Minor Socialities

In this episode, we speak with Erin Manning and Giovanni Marmont for a conversation about how use might be detached from productivity, mastery, and measurable achievement. Moving between studious use, the pragmatics of the useless, colonial property, football, maple syrup, improvised infrastructures, and the struggle to reclaim time, they explore forms of collective life grounded in entanglement rather than individualism. What becomes possible when study is no longer treated as self-investment, land is not reduced to property, and practices are allowed to remain partial, experimental, and unresolved?

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More on the books discussed in this episode
A Studious Use. Designing from the Undercommons
Out of the Clear

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Intro / outro music – The Ex – (Sucked Out Chucked Out) 2 from “Dignity of Labour”